tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256523094524901526.post6195094060539557182..comments2009-10-13T16:40:06.153-07:00Comments on The situation is very bad: So focused on future scenarios that you ignore the presentPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03773373658108336694noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256523094524901526.post-87849768583626129232009-02-18T21:18:00.000-08:002009-02-18T21:18:00.000-08:00Actually, as long as there is still a Jewish ethno...Actually, as long as there is still a Jewish ethnocracy of Israel, any 'Palestine' would be a bantustan. <BR/><BR/>You remind me that much of the rhetoric we see alleges that the majority of Israelis and Palestinians support a two state 'solution'. Of course, there is a range of proposals for partition, ranging from what's left inside the wall, through 'land swaps' and the Green Line, to the UN partition of 1947. I may do a post about it. Cheers.Ernie Halfdramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06463362099448607727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256523094524901526.post-78393456540482287632009-02-18T03:26:00.000-08:002009-02-18T03:26:00.000-08:00Ernie, thanks for posting here.You make a good poi...Ernie, thanks for posting here.<BR/><BR/>You make a good point that every version of the "two-state solution" that Israel has said it'll accept is essentially the same as the South African apartheid "solution" in which the long-term plan was to divide that country into a "white" state and a set of bantustans where black people would have full citizenship. But the ANC was always against bantustans and insisted on a one-state solution. In contrast, the PLO has accepted a two-state solution in Palestine. Israel won't accept a <I>viable</I> Palestinian state, but that's a subtlety that is lost on those whose opinion matters, namely the American public.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03773373658108336694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4256523094524901526.post-60845269044650147462009-02-16T12:40:00.000-08:002009-02-16T12:40:00.000-08:00Thanks for blogrolling me, Peter.What Walt and the...Thanks for blogrolling me, Peter.<BR/><BR/>What Walt and the other two state advocates appear to have lost sight of, among many other things, is that 'an independent Palestinian state' on all or part of the WB and Gaza is actually a closer parallel to the classical apartheid bantustans than the current situation. Like the rump Palestine, the bantustans were little enclaves with some of the trappings of sovereignty that were supposed to provide what Livni is describing as 'the full national solution'. Black South Africans who wanted to exercise political rights could do so in the 'homelands' they were assigned to.Ernie Halfdramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06463362099448607727noreply@blogger.com